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Lounge Gast
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Hi, i am currently still in college (aerospace engineering)but i was wondering what grades you actually need to participate in the programme?
Thank you for your help and good luck ;)
btw from what i heard Daimler is paying about 55k in the CAReer programme and regular salaries in north Germany are about 45-50k for a masters.
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20.07.12
Lounge Gast
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Apparently they don't really watch the grades. I know a guy who got to the final 360 this year (phone interview) with a high 60's average. I got just as far as him with mid 80s (both mechanical engineers).
Are you doing your bachelors or masters? And I assume you mean 45-50k salary after completing a masters?
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16.08.12
Lounge Gast
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Salary means nothing alone. You live way better in Toulouse with 35k? than with 50k? in London. But yes, it is true that the figure can go up to 50k for EADS HQ in Munich for a support stream for example. For an engineer in Toulouse you can expect 35k.
As for the grades, you don't need specific grades to participate to the scheme.
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19.10.12
koolguy
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I had done with interview (for Direct job) and the application still in process as i can see ..when i can expect the final ans they told me after interview that they will invite me to munich and do let me know in 3-4 weeks...Do any body have idea?
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20.10.12
koolguy
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Hii Dude, I applied EADS (Cassidian) munich..first call hr told me about interview date and mailed me information.
I had done with my interview last monday (10 days ago), I mailed hr and asked her about decision and she told me, that is waiting for ans from recruiter and in the account my application shows in process .....how long they take to make decision and ya one more thing interviewer asked me salary and joining time also ..but still waiting for final ans as she told me i have to come down to munich ...
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28.10.12
koolguy
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I need to know, how much time EADS take to decide, I applied directly and finish with interview with the Manager and req. I asked HR she said the process is going on!!!
Its more than 2 weeks ...
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29.10.12
koolguy
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I am waiting for the ans. I had done with my interview on 9th of october . DO you know, how long they will take to give decision
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27.12.12
Lounge Gast
| Re: EADS Progress Assessment Center |
Hey everyone,
I hope you all had a great Christmas time.
I read all your comments and recommendations here - I find it very helpful as I am planning to take a part in this process. Does anyone attempt to submit their applications for the January deadline as well?
To all experienced, would you have any advice/tips for totally new people willing to try becoming a PROGRESS candidate? I am interested in Communication or Marketing stream. I would appreciate any help and listen to your experience - my contact e-mail: pokorska86@gmail.com.
Thanks!
Magdalena Pokorska
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09.01.13
Lounge Gast
| Re: EADS Progress Assessment Center |
Hello,
Did anyone apply for PROGRESS 2013 and got a reply for the next steps?
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09.01.13
Lounge Gast
| Re: EADS Progress Assessment Center |
Hello,
Did anyone apply for PROGRESS 2013? and received any email about the next steps?
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11.01.13
Lounge Gast
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Yes, I applied. I suppose we will be getting a reply after the deadline is closed for details of the next stage.
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11.01.13
Lounge Gast
| Re: EADS Progress Assessment Center |
Hello
I did apply, and already got an answer annuncing that I've been selected to continue with the next step of the selection, for the online pre-assessment. I sent my application on wednesday.
Let's see how it goes
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13.01.13
Lounge Gast
| Re: EADS Progress Assessment Center |
I have also been selected for the OA .. I wonder what it is. Is it pure logical and mathematics test (Like the GMAT) ?
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14.01.13
Lounge Gast
| Re: EADS Progress Assessment Center |
After what I've heard, it is kind of an aptitude test, were they will ask you questions regardign different situations and you will have several options in between you should choose one. This way they can get an idea of your psycological profile
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14.01.13
Lounge Gast
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Ok Good to know.. So there is no mathematics? I applied for the Supply Chain program
Still a very long way to go :)
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15.01.13
Lounge Gast
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Wow, I also applied on Wednesday but yet to get a response
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18.01.13
Lounge Gast
| Re: EADS Progress Assessment Center |
Hey, did any of you get selected for the next stage and selected the mobility to "only nationally"? I was rejected today and sent my application just two days ago. I would have expected to get at least a bit further and am wondering now about the reasons :0
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19.01.13
Lounge Gast
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I guess mobility ought to be "international"..
That's the way it is at EADS PROGRESS, sorry for your rejection. Maybe next time..
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19.01.13
Lounge Gast
| Re: EADS Progress Assessment Center |
Anybody applied / got selected with less than 12 months of International experience ?
Lounge Gast schrieb:
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> Has anybody here who applied for the Strategy/Marketing unit,
> passed the phone interview and got the invitation to the
> selection-event so far? I am still waiting for the contact
> from EADS.
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20.01.13
Lounge Gast
| Re: EADS Progress Assessment Center |
have you already passed the online tests. please let us in on how it looked like and what the questions were. and congrats on your progress
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21.01.13
Lounge Gast
| Re: EADS Progress Assessment Center |
In my case I have studied my bachelor's in Spain, Masters in France and worked for 4 months in Germany, and asked for international mobility, and I passed to the next step
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21.01.13
Lounge Gast
| Re: EADS Progress Assessment Center |
Hi there,
does anyone have an idea of an even rugh time schedule for the application-process and the programme in general? I'm writing my diploma thesis right now and hoping for no critical overlaps :)
Thanks and good luck to all!
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23.01.13
Lounge Gast
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You should consider at least 5 months from now (the last steps of the selection are usually taking place around june - july).
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24.01.13
Lounge Gast
| Re: EADS Progress Assessment Center |
Hello ,
I was wondering, when will we receive the test date for the online assessment, I was informed that I passed to the next stage but no further information.
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25.01.13
Lounge Gast
| Re: EADS Progress Assessment Center |
Me neither. I am still waiting for further information about the Online Assessment. Who knows more about it?
Is it also with logical test (such as GMAT)?
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25.01.13
Lounge Gast
| Re: EADS Progress Assessment Center |
During the application-progress, there are 2 options to commit a cover/motivation letter - once as a short text, an online formular and secondly as an attachment.
Waht did you insert where? Im not sure in what content this texts should differ....
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25.01.13
Lounge Gast
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I used the same cover letter for both section. There's nothing to worry.
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26.01.13
Lounge Gast
| Re: EADS Progress Assessment Center |
I used same. A pdf version and a copy paste into the text box. Got accepted to take the OA, which is why I am reading this page. Want to figure out what the OA is all about :)
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27.01.13
Lounge Gast
| Re: EADS Progress Assessment Center |
Hi all
I applied for Communications in mid-December and have not got any respond yet. Only two emails stating that my application is under process, etc. I truly hope to get more information latest by next week. Good luck everyone!
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27.01.13
Lounge Gast
| Re: EADS Progress Assessment Center |
Well, the deadline for sending the applications is on Thursday, so I guess from that moment we will get some more news about the next step.
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29.01.13
Lounge Gast
| Re: EADS Progress Assessment Center |
I received last friday an email where they told that I have been selected and wich are the next steps, but I didn't receive any yet. Do you know if we have to wait for a time?
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29.01.13
Lounge Gast
| Re: EADS Progress Assessment Center |
I received the e mail last friday where says I have been selected. Do you know witch is the mail title of the OA invitation? I have some mails in Spam.
Lounge Gast schrieb:
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> Hallo allerseits,
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> Ist jemand von euch zufällig derzeit im AC-Prozess von EADS
> und kann ein wenig erzÄhlen wie es war?
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> Ich hatte heute mein Telefon-Interview, haben mir gesagt ich
> krieg erst Ende März Bescheid, war das bei euch auch so ?
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30.01.13
Lounge Gast
| Re: EADS Progress Assessment Center |
I have a question about this program. I have been selected for the OA and I was wondering where this programm would take me at the end.
My wish is to work in Asia, is it possible to be based there after the selection process? Or is it only for Europe countries?
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31.01.13
Lounge Gast
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Application sent in ! Good luck to everyone.
For some reason, I couldn't access the application portal under Firefox when completing my profile. Tried out under Chrome, and it's now submitted.
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03.02.13
Lounge Gast
| Re: EADS Progress Assessment Center |
got my rejection letter today. What about you guys? Did they mention any reasons?
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04.02.13
Lounge Gast
| Re: EADS Progress Assessment Center |
Now answer yet - when did you send your application?
Lounge Gast schrieb:
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> got my rejection letter today. What about you guys? Did they
> mention any reasons?
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04.02.13
Lounge Gast
| Re: EADS Progress Assessment Center |
Hi everybody.
Has anybody already received the OA invitation? Cheers
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04.02.13
Lounge Gast
| Re: EADS Progress Assessment Center |
You did not get any answer yet? when did you apply?
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04.02.13
Lounge Gast
| Re: EADS Progress Assessment Center |
I have received that one where I was selected and the next step, but the further information about the OA not yet
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05.02.13
Lounge Gast
| Re: EADS Progress Assessment Center |
I have received an email today to infom me about the next steps..
Let's see..
But I really need details about the OA test. Is it with mathematics?
I hate mathematics :/
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05.02.13
Lounge Gast
| Re: EADS Progress Assessment Center |
which division did you apply for? what test center does eads use? has anyone got a clue on how to practise for this?
I applied for the Business dev. track
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06.02.13
Lounge Gast
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Got the invitation for the online assessment today. Also Business Development stream.
Anyone can give some information on the test?
Thx
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06.02.13
Lounge Gast
| Re: EADS Progress Assessment Center |
Hey!) I just received a link for pre-assesment tests! Does anybody know what kind of task to expect in reasoning section? I wish everyone good luck!!!!!!))
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07.02.13
Lounge Gast
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I also got the e-mail with the test link yesterday. Got luck to everybody with it!
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08.02.13
Lounge Gast
| Re: EADS Progress Assessment Center |
Hey did anyone already passed the online pre assessment and if yes could provide information about the kind of tests to be done? Thanks in advance
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09.02.13
Lounge Gast
| Re: EADS Progress Assessment Center |
Did somebody already passed the test? I'd like to know what is comprised of?
Is it starting with the personality test? What about the logical test?
Thanks!
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11.02.13
Lounge Gast
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Just the usual stuff. logical tests, some maths using symbols, table and chart interpretations, and of course, behavioural questions, which pop out every now and then..
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11.02.13
Lounge Gast
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Hey,
i passed the online test yesterday; the logical test it quite hard !!!!
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11.02.13
Lounge Gast
| Re: EADS Progress Assessment Center |
Is the math test similar to the shl test?
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11.02.13
Lounge Gast
| Re: EADS Progress Assessment Center |
hey congradulations to those who passed the online test!!! how much time did it took for the test to complete!! which field did u apply to and what were the questions?
thanks in advance
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11.02.13
Lounge Gast
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What kind of test was that ? numerical ? reasoning ? logical ?
So cool to hear from so many applicants to the program here !
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12.02.13
Lounge Gast
| Re: EADS Progress Assessment Center |
It takes like one hour and a half, and in my case - applied for Engineering position - the questions were mainly like an IQ test
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12.02.13
Lounge Gast
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"I passed the online test yesterday. The logical test is quite hard"
When you say you passed the test, you mean you completed it or do you mean you already got an email saying you cleared the cut off?
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12.02.13
Lounge Gast
| Re: EADS Progress Assessment Center |
I mean i completed it; sorry.
The test is divided between personality test (PT), logical test (LT) and numerical test (NT), like that : PT - LT - PT - NT - PS - LT - PT
Logical and numerical test are quite hard because you don't have a lot of time...
good luck
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13.02.13
Lounge Gast
| Re: EADS Progress Assessment Center |
Just finished the test... Felt not doing well in the second half :(
Missed some questions and for sure made some mistakes...
Good luck to others!
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13.02.13
Lounge Gast
| Re: EADS Progress Assessment Center |
Just finished the test... Felt not doing well in the second half :(
Missed some questions and for sure made some mistakes...
Good luck to others!
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15.02.13
Lounge Gast
| Re: EADS Progress Assessment Center |
Could you please tell me what all rounds were there? I need to write mine in two days.
Thanks
Appreciate it
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15.02.13
Lounge Gast
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The test was very hard.. But it is now over.
I believe I've done my best. Don't know what best it was though.
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15.02.13
Lounge Gast
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Same here... Good luck to others!
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15.02.13
Lounge Gast
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Just finsihed the test, I guess we will receive the results somewhen next week.
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16.02.13
Lounge Gast
| Re: EADS Progress Assessment Center |
Hi all,
I can see that this homepage is pretty popular and I guess far more people visit this site than would actually leave a comment or two. The test was online test was pretty interesting and not too hard. The problem and limiting factor was the time, which is probably intended. Do some free online IQ tests as preparation and watch the time.
Please do share your opinions and experiences here, as everyone can learn from them.
Cheers
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16.02.13
Lounge Gast
| Re: EADS Progress Assessment Center |
Hello All,
I just finished the test and I had 3 parts. Does anyone have an idea of how these are graded? Does 70% ean that you were better than 70% of test takers, or would this be your actual score. Going further, is anyone sure about the average score one needs to obtain fro the first ain parts in orer to pass? Scrolling back into last years comments, soeone speaks of an 50-60-70 average. Any insights? Good luck for the rest of you
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16.02.13
Lounge Gast
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The numbers are given in percentage. If you have e.g. 70 in one categorie it means you were better than 70% of the other participants.
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16.02.13
Lounge Gast
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You can already see your grade? I didn't see my grade...
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17.02.13
Lounge Gast
| Re: EADS Progress Assessment Center |
I didn't get my grade either. I thought the test was ok, except the last logic part that I found to be pretty hard.
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17.02.13
Lounge Gast
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It seems the test differ for the various streams. I had more than 3 parts but cancelled it while doing the 4th part. For me it was very tough and kind of ridiculous tests...
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17.02.13
Lounge Gast
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no one has passed the test so far. Results will be out, starting from tomorrow. the discussion on the 70% average, is based on previouse discussions (see discussions of 2012)
are you sure that 70% means that you are better than 70% of all test takers? where can i get that information from?
thanks
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18.02.13
Lounge Gast
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Guys just read the text, nobody said that they already had the results.
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18.02.13
Lounge Gast
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Thats what the participants from last year wrote, the results apparently come with an explanation.
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18.02.13
Lounge Gast
| Re: EADS Progress Assessment Center |
Seems like some people got already the results for the test, but without comments / news from EADS.
As they are performed by an external, I guess they submit the results to the applicant and EADS at the same time?
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18.02.13
Lounge Gast
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Results have been sent a few mins ago :)
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18.02.13
Lounge Gast
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Does everybody receive the results? I still didn't receive it...
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18.02.13
Lounge Gast
| Re: EADS Progress Assessment Center |
For those who already got the results, on what day did you do the test?
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18.02.13
Lounge Gast
| Re: EADS Progress Assessment Center |
No, I still didn't receive too...
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18.02.13
Lounge Gast
| Re: EADS Progress Assessment Center |
I passed the OA the saturday 16th, and had my results this midday. (Just Kienbaum's ones...)
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18.02.13
Lounge Gast
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Hm did mine last week but still have no results
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18.02.13
Lounge Gast
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May I ask what all your results are? Are you content?
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18.02.13
Lounge Gast
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you can log in on this website https://www.perls-testing.de/kienbaum/gep/twd.php?xsLang=en with your original password
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18.02.13
Lounge Gast
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For those who have their results already, I am curious, what do they say. R u satisfied with them? Would be lovely if you share some of you feedback :D... I wondering if you agree with the personality test...
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19.02.13
Lounge Gast
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I got a 91, 88, 57 score within the first 3 sections. I have to admit the test shows quite well my personality (specially after reading the explanations carefully). I only was a bit surprise of getting only a 35% in costumer orientation.Overall, I don't know if it will be enough to reach the next phase. Good luck to everyone!
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19.02.13
Lounge Gast
| Re: EADS Progress Assessment Center |
I wanted to ask if anyone had received any confirmation by email from Kienbaum after having completed the online test ? Just to make sure that the data has been saved correctly etc ...
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19.02.13
Lounge Gast
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I applied for Manufacturing and got a 91,89,57 score within the technical related sections. I was a bit surprised of getting a 35% in customer mentality, but after reading carefully the explanations I have to admit that the test in general shows quite what I think about myself.
I wonder if it will be enough to reach to the next phase...
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19.02.13
Lounge Gast
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Hello all,
For me:
Problem-solving capacity - standard (100)
Diagram analysis (98)
Reasoning (98)
Leadership motivation (reserved vs. dominant) (42)
Active pursuit of innovation (13)
Outgoing nature (27)
Team orientation (40)
Customer service mentality (78)
Propensity for conflict (45)
Willingness to learn (73)
My feeling is it fits not too badly, except for the innovation which I definitely pursue actively :)
In addition there is comments for each score, giving some explanation for the behaviour (like can work within team but still comfortable to handle job on its own, etc.).
Good luck to everyone!
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19.02.13
Lounge Gast
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Well then let's make a start
I haven't received an email yet but login into the kienbaum site gave me the results 80 60 85 and above average ratings in the PT.
Well, let's see how things go shall we? ;)
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19.02.13
Lounge Gast
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When you get your results from the above mentioned websited, the status changes to retrieved, won't that confuse EADS employees?
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19.02.13
Lounge Gast
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My first 3 results are all over 60 and two over 80. I hope that is enough for the next step.
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19.02.13
Lounge Gast
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In my case I got
Diagram anaisys 45
Reasoning 94
Solving Problem capacity 79
Let's see :S
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19.02.13
Lounge Gast
| Re: EADS Progress Assessment Center |
To the guys with
9x
9x
9x
points...
How did you prepare? I've never done such a test before and especially the math/logic bit and the diagrams were totally unknown to me and thus I ran out of time in both sections.
So maybe you were told WHAT to prepare for, then HOW did you manage to prepare for this?
Thanks!
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19.02.13
Lounge Gast
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Just got my results1 My first three results are all above 90. Good luck to us :)
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19.02.13
Lounge Gast
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In my case I'm surprised I got a percentile of 12 in Team Orientation, while I've always been pro team-working.
I think this results - the ones regarding the social/personal skills - may be lower than expected to some of us because instead of giving extreme answers we tried to keep it real, by answering using maybe 25-40% / 60-80% instead of 0-20% or 80-100%
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19.02.13
Lounge Gast
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There are tons of books about these kind of tests out there with which you can prepare for. Its not a big secret.
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19.02.13
Lounge Gast
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When you do such tests more often, you will see you improve easily.
I have done a few of this tests already for other companies, and they are somehow similare (and if Kienbaum is the provider, you even realise you know some of the graphs :D). Actually in my opinion the EADS test was one of the easier once - but maybe just because I do not like verbal tests.
You can find some pages in the internet where you can prepare for such tests. A good one is for example SHL.
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19.02.13
Lounge Gast
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I answered the personal test rather in extrems, so my results are very high almost to high I feel ...
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19.02.13
Lounge Gast
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Hi here are my results :
Problem-solving capacity - standard (91)
Diagram analysis (61)
Reasoning (96)
Leadership motivation (72)
Active pursuit of innovation (45)
Outgoing nature (82)
Team orientation (5)
Customer service mentality (63)
Propensity for conflict (16)
Willingness to learn (96)
What do you think?
I don't know if I must be surprised about the team orientation results
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19.02.13
Lounge Gast
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How do you understand the Propensity for conflict perectage? If you have a high score does that mean that you are more likely to egt into conflicts and if you have less percentage than not? I'm confused.
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19.02.13
Lounge Gast
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The way I see it, Customer Service Mentality and Propensity for Conflict are the two items where a higher score isn't necessarily better.
A high score in CSM would mean that you would bend over backwards to meet a customer's requirements at the expense of other duties and priorities. A higher score in PfC would mean that you would be willing to pick a fight with someone and cause problems within the team just to prove a point or to settle a personal conflict.
Just my opinion though. Don't know what you guys think.
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20.02.13
Lounge Gast
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I don't think that a high percentage is customer mentality is negativ at all. The description says:
Customer service mentality describes the importance accorded to the needs of customers and partners,
and to solving their individual problems. People with high scores on this scale are not just intent on exactly
understanding a customer?s concerns, but they also enjoy providing the service that best corresponds to
those concerns. To that end, they are also willing to let their personal needs take a backseat. This ability
also makes it easier for them to deal with difficult partners, and helps increase customer satisfaction.
People with low scores on this scale, on the other hand, tend not to put customers? concerns so obviously
first.
If you have 75 or high it says that:
Based on your responses on the test, you have an above-average inclination to respond to the needs of
others and to commit yourself to solving their problems. Accordingly, you consider it particularly important
to understand and meet the expectations of your customers. You feel especially gratified if you can provide
the best possible solution to others? requests.
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20.02.13
Lounge Gast
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You're probably right. Thanks for clearing that up !
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22.02.13
Lounge Gast
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Does anybody know what the telephone interview looks like? What kind of questions are going to be asked?
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22.02.13
Lounge Gast
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I think you can have a look at the discussion of previous years.
Got the invitation of phone interview just now. Good luck to all!
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23.02.13
Lounge Gast
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Me too.. I got the phone interview. Is it a step forward? Or just the normal process after the completion of the OA?
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23.02.13
Lounge Gast
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Definetly a step forward, only if you have passed the test you are invited for the phone interview
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23.02.13
Lounge Gast
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Those who already got their e-mail for the phone interview, could you please tell us to which branch of the PROGRESS did you apply? And what were your results? Thanks
Lounge Gast schrieb:
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> i received a rejection today as well. honestly tho, im not
> surprised i have. as mentioned earlier, my report was totally
> contradictory.
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> i, for one, wont apply to the program again. i dont fear
> competition nor the OA, but i dont see the value to these
> tests other than for EADS to be able to narrow down the
> choice. i do understand that they receive a huge amount of
> applications. but these standardized tests are nothing but
> standardized. and thats just not the way i work hehehe.
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> i agree with others who said this test wasnt clear at times.
> however, that was not so much a problem. there is always room
> for interpretation. to me it was more problematic that they
> wanted me to enter percentages to values and characteristics
> to determine 'my fit'. i dont think this kind of
> test is applicable at all. obviously, one could think in one
> preferable direction and answer the questions accordingly
> although its not true (e.g. teamwork vs. individual work).
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> my results in the first three categories were: 49, 14, 89
> overall, my lowest result was in team orientation with 11.
> my highest was in customer service mentality with 92.
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> i dont think i did particularly bad in the test. but
> obviously there were others who read the diagrams better and
> have a higher team & leadership aspiration ;-).
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> again. congrats to those who passed the OA.
> hope youll make it through and get the traineeship!
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23.02.13
Lounge Gast
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Engineering, my first three scores were 100, 100, 80, the rest were very mixed
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24.02.13
Lounge Gast
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I applied for the Strategy/Marketing and have a phone interview
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24.02.13
Lounge Gast
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Got the rejection today, despite good results (100, 100, 100 for the first three parts).
Good luck to all.
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25.02.13
Lounge Gast
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mabe 3x100 seems a bit suspicious
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25.02.13
Lounge Gast
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Lounge Gast schrieb:
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> Got the rejection today, despite good results (100, 100, 100
> for the first three parts).
> Good luck to all.
Would you please share with us the rest of your results and what did you apply for ?! Sounds bizarre !!!
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25.02.13
Lounge Gast
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This seems a bit strange :)
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25.02.13
Lounge Gast
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We almost all have focused mainly on the first three sections. Perhaps the personality scores are way more important than we assumed...
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25.02.13
Lounge Gast
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or the cv and pracitical experience didn't quite fit
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25.02.13
Lounge Gast
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Hello mates,
It seems that everyone who reached the telephone interview stage already can be quite happy.
I am rarely asking for advice; however this time I am kind of nervous as there is no information in which language this interview will be. Are there questions in German, French or another language (except English/native language?) Is anyone of you, who already did it, willing to share experience concerning this point ? I would be very grateful.
Maybe you had in the past a benefit of something I or someone else posted at this very helpful board, that?s why I hope I will receive some feedback on my question :). Thx!
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26.02.13
Lounge Gast
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Hey everyone, I got my rejection letter yesterday. My scores were (49) (61) and (69) for the first three. I'm pretty sure my scores were not good enough, however this was the first time I have taken such a test and found it to be very difficult, not to mention strange.
I'll start practicing lot more aptitude tests now, and I'll definitely be re-applying for Progress next year!
If anyone knows of some good sites to practice these sort of tests, or prepare for them in any way, please let us know!
Good luck to those who made the cut!
P.S. to the person who posted above me, I would assume the interview would be in the language in which you applied for the program.
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26.02.13
Lounge Gast
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shl has a few free ones, assessmentday.co.uk is also a good website
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26.02.13
Lounge Gast
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It will be in English, that's for sure. Or at least be prepared for it.
Kienbaum is a german company so maybe you'll have the chance to have somebody speaking German, but I highly doubt that you'll be able to do the interview in French, Italian or Spanish (unfortunately :) ).
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26.02.13
Lounge Gast
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Practice this kind of test really helps a lot. You find some good information for instance here: http://www.ed.ac.uk/schools-departmen...
UK universities seem to prepare their students better for this procedure than universities from other countries. Search at Google a little bit and you will find a lot of advices from the career pages of UK universities.
One good recommendation of this webpage is http://www.shldirect.com/practice_tes...
I hope this will help you for next year.
Concerning your answer about the language of the interview: Did not everyone have to apply in English? I think questions in other languages are possible - but are they very likely?
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26.02.13
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All communication (written, phone interview, assessment center) will be in English only. You definitely should prepare the phone interview, as there might be some "hard" questions (e.g. "Describe a situation where you found an innovative solution to a difficult problem") And always have an example at hand...
Was wollen wir trinken 7 Tage lang
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27.02.13
Lounge Gast
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Did anybody already have their phone interview?
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27.02.13
Lounge Gast
| Re: EADS Progress Assessment Center |
79, 92, 94, phone interview on 8th of March
Good luck to all of you who passed so far!!!
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01.03.13
Lounge Gast
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Just had the phone interview, it is not that bad. Mostly questions about your cv and experiences.
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01.03.13
Lounge Gast
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Is "not that bad" the kind expression for "it sucks" ;-)?
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02.03.13
Lounge Gast
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:D No I just wanted to say that it wasn't as difficult as I thought it would be.
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03.03.13
Lounge Gast
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This goes to the guys from EADS/Kienbaum, who most certainly watch these dialogues as well...
Having seen other assessment centers/methods meanwhile, that consist of an online part as well, I must say that the PROGRESS System is shallow. It seems that you guys willingly accept to be tricked upon by people knowing the right answers in advance etc. and making an application to the program a matter of sheer luck.
In the end it is EADS that will suffer from candidates that ain't necessarily the best, but the best prepared.
Good Luck
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04.03.13
Lounge Gast
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How could you possibly know the answers in advance? Why would even assume that?
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04.03.13
Lounge Gast
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I wondering - why you think so? With which method can you cheat at the online test of EADS which is not applicable for other online tests? I think already the psychological questions avoid that a friend is doing your test. So what else?
I guess the people of EADS/Kienbaum are aware that this possibilties exist and therefore they also consider your CV,...
Do you have practical improvement suggestions?
Actually preparing well isn't a bad attitude. However you should always keep in mind that an application also needs luck. Otherwise you can continue to complain about the people who get the job with connections and so on - life is not fair.
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04.03.13
Lounge Gast
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Why would you think that?
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06.03.13
Lounge Gast
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Hi everybody,
I applied for finance program and passed the online test (79,92,89)
I have the phone interview on March, 15th
Could we have interview feed back ?
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07.03.13
Lounge Gast
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Hi, anyone finished their phone interview can give some advise?
thanks a lot
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07.03.13
Lounge Gast
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Nope
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07.03.13
Lounge Gast
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Does anybody know how long it takes to get the feedback after the phone interview?
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08.03.13
Lounge Gast
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had phone interview today.
they said it takes up to one month for the results.
it's split into 3 parts, first general questions about eads - you should read about it, then about the aviation industry in general.
then problem solving questions for you when you have to give a lot of examples - such as hard situations you dealt with and how, what is your biggest achievement, what is your biggest innovation, what do you think are the biggest challenges for the future of eads/aviation/you.
the last part is the online assessment, when you have to give feedback and solution for three business cases, mostly team-management and project management oriented.
i cannot say more, but i can say good luck to you guys! its not easy, i suggest you be rested and think about your goals beforehand!
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09.03.13
Lounge Gast
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My interview was a bit different, the first part about the company was similar, what do you know about the company, some business numbers, who is the ceo...
The third was also the same, but the second part was different. i had rather the classical interview: "tell us something about you/your cv, why did you choose this university or that internship, what are your strengths, weaknesses, what would you like to achieve in 5/10 years...
I applied for the marketing track, maybe the interviews differ according to the track?
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10.03.13
Lounge Gast
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I guess it is different - as my interview was also different to your two descriptions. The focus was definitely on your described "second part".
I just had the typical question about why I want to work for EADS and nothing from the aviation industry or the industry sectors itself. Would not really say that was are "part" - more an introduction part to the main interview.
Therefore I had to answer to quite a lot of this question "Tell me a time..." - that is also why I hardly remember what it was, but nothing too tricky. I just was wondering that it was nothing direct about my weaknesses and challanges - guess that is what they asked between the lines and I did not got it ;-).
This situation part was in my opinion a bit strange, as I did not got it why we had to read it online instead of the interviewer telling us the situation. Nothing difficult and I wonder how they evaluate it.
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11.03.13
Lounge Gast
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Well, one can back up the comment earlier " guys willingly accept to be tricked upon by people knowing the right answers in advance"
Just give it a second thought - after doing a couple of online assessments, I can now think of a way that people want me to be for a certain position and will answer accordingly. I made 100/100 here in leading skills on purpose, when applying for strategy, was no big deal although my guess might have been wrong and I could have answered just one of the questions "wrongly". Others might have done a better guess or pick at guessing their outcome or had a better book to prepare with.
Now combine this with other people's comments from further up: "I knew half of the questions already"
Although the need for a system to sort out applicants is valid, this system has some downsides and EADS will get a pretty high portion of cheaters among their staff. But then again, as one sugggested earlier, cheating needs some skill, preparation and brain as well. Right?
It's either EADS wants this or to spend more money, e.g. in conducting more interviews.
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11.03.13
Lounge Gast
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What you are writing is nonesense. The parts that really mattered were the problem-solving capacity, the diagram analysis and the reasoning. Nobody could have known these questions before.
And if you are refering to the psychological questions: You could only have guessed what they might want to hear from you. So if you know customer service is really important for EADS (which is clearly stated on the webpage) you could have decided to answer accordingly. Anyway the psychological part was not really desicive for getting the phone interview as we have seen from all the different scores above. Which is not cheating by the way.
I think you are just offended because you failed and now try to pinpoint your failure on somebody else, the system, the test... etc. Just except that you didn't do well enough and move on. Nobodys fault but yours.
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12.03.13
Lounge Gast
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If this is the only explanation that possibly suits your imagination, well then cheers.
Otherwise, read the boards/comments and remain objective.
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13.03.13
Lounge Gast
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I think the only one that is getting carried away with his imaginagtion is you. You should probably read the post again, there is no indication for your theories in them. Do you have other conspiracy theories for us?
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16.03.13
Lounge Gast
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Well, let's try to come back to the topic...
They just informed that the results of phone interview should be out "as from next week", then the profiles of the successful candidates will be submitted to hiring managers for review.
If selected, Assessment Centers from May 14th to June 11th (Munich or Toulouse).
Good luck to us
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20.03.13
Lounge Gast
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Damn it, I'm out!
Results are out, so keep an eye on your mailbox... though I don't know if they send the results to everyone at the same time or not.
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20.03.13
Lounge Gast
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Anyone an idea about how many people will pass the telephone interview and how many people will be invited to the AC? Just to know if it is realistic to hope to get to the ACs...
Furthermore, how many people do you think applied in general and how many people will finall be chosen for progress? I did not find any figures about it.
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20.03.13
Lounge Gast
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Hey during the interview the girl told me there were over 2000 applications and that they were interviewing around 400 people. I dont know if that means in total.
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20.03.13
Lounge Gast
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I received the email that saying I passed the telephone interview. Who know if it means I am selected to the AC, or still need to be selected by the manager?
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21.03.13
Lounge Gast
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Your profile will be given to the line managers of the position that fits the best.
They will decide if they want to invite you in the AC if they are interested in your application.
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21.03.13
Lounge Gast
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I passed too, but it doesn't mean that you are invited to the AC. They are going to try to see if your profil fits open positions and only then introduce your profil to the responsible manager. If the responsible manager thinks you are a good candidate you are invited to the AC. Usuall 3 people will be invited for 1 position.
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23.03.13
Lounge Gast
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I can't speak for this year, as I did not apply, but I applied last year and made it to the phone interview stage. This is the information I can provide from this year's cohort:
-over 9600 applicants
-roughly 360 phone interviews
-roughly 250 get to selection day
-maximum 115 get a spot (it was about 98 in the end, based on a guy I know who got in)
I decided not to apply this year, as it was the age that hurt my application last year (I was 20, finishing up my Mechanical Engineering Bachelors, applied for engineering development).
As a result, I decided to tack on a Masters in Management and 2 more internships and will be reapplying next year for either the Strategy or Engineering Development stream, haven't decided yet.
I'll be older then and had more internship experience, which will hopefully help my candidacy.
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24.03.13
Lounge Gast
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Thank you a lot about this good information. Really worrying to hear that nearly 1/3 of the people who passend the phone interview are not invited to the ACs ... :-/
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25.03.13
Lounge Gast
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I don't believe that 1/3 of us won't go to the AC. If I understand well, 360 candidates had the telephone interview, but how many passed it well ?
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28.03.13
Lounge Gast
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Hello everybody,
did someone else already received any further response from EADS?
I got an automatic generated Email saying "Log on to eRecruiting to view the feedback provided for each candidate."
The Link of the email unfortunatelly did not work. Anyway, I logged in to my application profil, but I could not find any further information. But I am curious about this feedback as I would love to know if this message a positive or negative one...
Can anybody provide some help?
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28.03.13
Lounge Gast
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Let's wait and see...
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06.04.13
Lounge Gast
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Any news so far?
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08.04.13
Lounge Gast
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not yet...
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11.04.13
Lounge Gast
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We just received another email saying that we will get a definitive answer from next week... God, this waiting seems endless.
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12.04.13
Lounge Gast
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Some have already got confirmations that they are being proposed to line managers.
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12.04.13
Lounge Gast
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Just proposed... the decision is from next week...
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12.04.13
Lounge Gast
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Yes, nothing new yet. They're just playing with our nerves :)
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17.04.13
Lounge Gast
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Any update from EADS for anybody?
In the last email they mentioned they will let us know the results as from this week. Nothing yet.
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17.04.13
Lounge Gast
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I received an invitation today, along with several other people.
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17.04.13
Lounge Gast
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Oh really? What positions for?
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18.04.13
Lounge Gast
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Congratulations. May I know which positions and what was the category you applied for?
Which date exactly is your AC?
Cheers
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18.04.13
Lounge Gast
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Don't lose hope, I received my invitation 5 min ago !! Fingers crossed for all of you !
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18.04.13
Lounge Gast
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Does anyone could give some examples or idea that what the AC is going be?
Many Thx
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19.04.13
Lounge Gast
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Congrats to all. Nothing for me yet.
It would be appreciated if you could also let us know
- which functional area (Eng., Manu., HR etc.) you applied;
- which position(s) they offered to you;
- the dates you are invited to be there.
Thanks
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19.04.13
Lounge Gast
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If you search for this group "EADS Progress 2013 Candidates" on LinkedIn, you can get a good idea on which areas have invited candidates already. Also on dates.
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20.04.13
Lounge Gast
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Thanks mate ;)
Many accepted. Some got the "waiting" email from the EADS, just like me!
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22.04.13
Lounge Gast
| Re: EADS Progress Assessment Center |
Hello all,
its nice to see that such a community exists.. i applied for progress 2013 too.. and been waiting ever since.. i received mails saying that my profile is forwarded to line managers.. i gave the telephone interview on the 28th feb..
i got a mail on friday saying that some positions have not been reviewed yet and be patient, any one else in the same boat ?? i applied for supply management and now i am worried that i am out of the game...
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22.04.13
Lounge Gast
| Re: EADS Progress Assessment Center |
Hi,
I got an invitation for a Selection Day, which has to be confirmed by April 30th. I think its same for everyone - so still some time left and some managers may did not have sufficient time to make a proper preselection. Keep hope.
Cheers
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24.04.13
Lounge Gast
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Anyone from the "Waiting emails" hear anything?
I'm begining to lose hope. :(
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25.04.13
Lounge Gast
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no hope...
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07.05.13
Lounge Gast
| Re: EADS Progress Assessment Center |
Is somebody still waiting for an answer?
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14.05.13
Lounge Gast
| Re: EADS Progress Assessment Center |
Does anyone know what to expect at the assessment center? The best answer i could get was, "Team/Group activities that would test how you get along with the team and test your motivation"
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22.05.13
Lounge Gast
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Has anybody had the AC already? How did it go?
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22.05.13
Lounge Gast
| Re: EADS Progress Assessment Center |
?????
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24.05.13
Lounge Gast
| Re: EADS Progress Assessment Center |
You'll get an individual feedback in the end. It is essential that you know the division that you are interviewing for, otherwise I don't think any prep is needed.
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24.05.13
Lounge Gast
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All depends on your interview partner.
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24.05.13
Lounge Gast
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What is the salary anyway?
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27.05.13
Lounge Gast
| Re: EADS Progress Assessment Center |
How long after the AC did you find out the outcome? What was the structure of the day? Any good/bad impressions?
Thanks a lot!
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27.05.13
Lounge Gast
| Re: EADS Progress Assessment Center |
At least when I was there, they didn't say anything about salaries...nor did I hear anything about when to expect results. I had my AC last week and haven't heard back from them ever since.
I personally thought that there was quite some room for improvement in terms of organization. The facility was not really ideal and the structure just weird, there were a bunch of HR people around but not particularly helping. At least in my case, I knew exactly who I was competing with for the position but the atmosphere among candidates was still friendly.
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28.05.13
Lounge Gast
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I personally think 1 day was too short to get a good impression of everyone. The exercises were short as was the interview. They didn't dig really deep.
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28.05.13
Lounge Gast
| Re: EADS Progress Assessment Center |
Overall, I thought this AC got a fairly good organization. It was my first experience in a AC though, so I may lack in experience for stating this... But yes, I thought it was OK.
I read here that some people think that the interviews and exercices were not really deep. This is true, but you must remember that there were many steps before the AC thus HR already knew a lot about us.
About the salary, they mentioned a "comparatively good salary". Anyone can guess the exact wage is very clever... I don't expect it to be super high but it should be fairly decent.
They said we would get the results of the selection by mid-June. Yes, the waiting is endless...
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28.05.13
Lounge Gast
| Re: EADS Progress Assessment Center |
Had anybody already received result of the AC ?
By the way, to our group they said that result will communicated within 10 working days.
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29.05.13
Lounge Gast
| Re: EADS Progress Assessment Center |
Already got a rejection but no reason stated.
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30.05.13
Lounge Gast
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Anybody else got result of the AC ?
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30.05.13
Lounge Gast
| Re: EADS Progress Assessment Center |
for those who went to the ac can you tell us, what kind of exercise were conducted and what case study etc was given ?
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